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	<title>Comments on: Microsoft&#8217;s Zune: $100 Million Sales Drop Plus Layoffs Equals Questions</title>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 09:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jon what do you mean &quot;anyone remember Surface&quot;? It&#039;s popular with agencies, in place in hotels and casinos, car dealerships and commercial lobbies. At its price, it&#039;s not exactly consumer electronics, but it is doing well in the target market. There&#039;s nothing else out there like it (no, multi-touch doesn&#039;t count: if you don&#039;t know the difference between multi-touch and a fully imaged surface, please read up. I think you&#039;ll find it pretty interesting)

Office was last revised in 2007. The latest version - Office 14 - is due soon (probably next year). They&#039;ve revised it on a pretty regular schedule since it was announced. I&#039;m not sure where you get that they haven&#039;t been updating it.

As to your history: read up on Apple. Apple is an *awesome* marketer, but they are far more proprietary than Microsoft, far more controlling and far more &quot;big brother&quot;. They stole/borrowed/copied/whatever the original Mac design from Xerox, just like Microsoft and many others did. They &quot;built an empire&quot; on technology from Commodore/MOS and eventually marketed them under a bus. Until the Mac, their products were inferior to many other offerings, and often 5-10x as expensive. They had great marketing, though, and did a good job getting schools to agree to use their stuff at a huge discount. Apple&#039;s no saint and they did more than just &#039;dumb things&#039;

That all said, I love my Zune, hate that there are no accessories, but otherwise agree that it just doesn&#039;t have the cool factor required to get teens to buy it. Everyone I know who has a zune is in technology, is highly educated, and is typicall over 30. IOW people who have needs other than just having the cool thing. Of course, many of them also have iPhones so I guess they aren&#039;t perfect ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon what do you mean &quot;anyone remember Surface&quot;? It&#39;s popular with agencies, in place in hotels and casinos, car dealerships and commercial lobbies. At its price, it&#39;s not exactly consumer electronics, but it is doing well in the target market. There&#39;s nothing else out there like it (no, multi-touch doesn&#39;t count: if you don&#39;t know the difference between multi-touch and a fully imaged surface, please read up. I think you&#39;ll find it pretty interesting)</p>
<p>Office was last revised in 2007. The latest version &#8211; Office 14 &#8211; is due soon (probably next year). They&#39;ve revised it on a pretty regular schedule since it was announced. I&#39;m not sure where you get that they haven&#39;t been updating it.</p>
<p>As to your history: read up on Apple. Apple is an *awesome* marketer, but they are far more proprietary than Microsoft, far more controlling and far more &quot;big brother&quot;. They stole/borrowed/copied/whatever the original Mac design from Xerox, just like Microsoft and many others did. They &quot;built an empire&quot; on technology from Commodore/MOS and eventually marketed them under a bus. Until the Mac, their products were inferior to many other offerings, and often 5-10x as expensive. They had great marketing, though, and did a good job getting schools to agree to use their stuff at a huge discount. Apple&#39;s no saint and they did more than just &#39;dumb things&#39;</p>
<p>That all said, I love my Zune, hate that there are no accessories, but otherwise agree that it just doesn&#39;t have the cool factor required to get teens to buy it. Everyone I know who has a zune is in technology, is highly educated, and is typicall over 30. IOW people who have needs other than just having the cool thing. Of course, many of them also have iPhones so I guess they aren&#39;t perfect ;)</p>
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		<title>By: coffee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[coffee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Zune seems like a decent piece of hardware, though after the New Year&#039;s issues it had, i can&#039;t help but question it&#039;s reliability]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Zune seems like a decent piece of hardware, though after the New Year&#39;s issues it had, i can&#39;t help but question it&#39;s reliability</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In our house, we have a Zune an iPod and two iPhones. The fact that Microsoft was so late to the party with the Zune is as telling from a cultural and R&amp;D standpoint as anything else. Let&#039;s face it. They do lots of things passably, but really excel at nothing. There are so many examples that there&#039;s no need to dwell on Vista.

They are winning the console wars in the US because of a pricing error by Sony, not because of a superior product. Follow the timeline back a bit further and you&#039;ll realize that this company took someone else&#039;s idea for a GUI-based OS and built a goliath enterprise upon a rickety mountain of DOS. 

Their focus on rigidly proprietary applications and shady business tactics has hurt them in more ways than even they see. The fact that their market share continues to erode as personal and business electronics move away from the desktop and towards smaller devices and the cloud hasn&#039;t really hit them the way it should. Why? Because they still have a juggernaut market share and decades worth of legacy business to soften the blow. They are so self-concious when they pursue new ideas because culturally it just isn&#039;t part of the company&#039;s DNA. Anyone remember Surface?

Apple has done lots of dumb things themselves in the past, but those decisions are culturally used as learning experiences. Failed products contribute ideas to successful ones. There is simply no way that anyone can claim the iPod and iPhone aren&#039;t wildly successful at least in part because of the masterfully democratic design of iTunes and the App Store. That&#039;s foresight into the content distribution marketplace -- and learning from experience. To think that it all started with some off-the-shelf hardware they wanted to unload.

I recently set up a major Press Day event at CES for a client and I actually used – gasp – Keynote, not PPT. The fact that they haven&#039;t continued to significantly refine their star Office products speaks volumes about Microsoft. 

I&#039;m a big fan of competition, so I hope that Microsoft makes some serious changes before it&#039;s too late once again. Starting with their R&amp;D lifecycle. I personally think that Apple&#039;s is too fast, but Microsoft is plodding along slower than ever. They missed the first ship that sailed in the mobile devices market. Windows Mobile was a cruel joke and I was certainly one of the guinea pigs. Let&#039;s see if they can&#039;t get it together for the next generation of smart phones.

As far as incorporating the Zune competently into other devices... I&#039;ll believe it when I see it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In our house, we have a Zune an iPod and two iPhones. The fact that Microsoft was so late to the party with the Zune is as telling from a cultural and R&amp;D standpoint as anything else. Let&#39;s face it. They do lots of things passably, but really excel at nothing. There are so many examples that there&#39;s no need to dwell on Vista.</p>
<p>They are winning the console wars in the US because of a pricing error by Sony, not because of a superior product. Follow the timeline back a bit further and you&#39;ll realize that this company took someone else&#39;s idea for a GUI-based OS and built a goliath enterprise upon a rickety mountain of DOS. </p>
<p>Their focus on rigidly proprietary applications and shady business tactics has hurt them in more ways than even they see. The fact that their market share continues to erode as personal and business electronics move away from the desktop and towards smaller devices and the cloud hasn&#39;t really hit them the way it should. Why? Because they still have a juggernaut market share and decades worth of legacy business to soften the blow. They are so self-concious when they pursue new ideas because culturally it just isn&#39;t part of the company&#39;s DNA. Anyone remember Surface?</p>
<p>Apple has done lots of dumb things themselves in the past, but those decisions are culturally used as learning experiences. Failed products contribute ideas to successful ones. There is simply no way that anyone can claim the iPod and iPhone aren&#39;t wildly successful at least in part because of the masterfully democratic design of iTunes and the App Store. That&#39;s foresight into the content distribution marketplace &#8212; and learning from experience. To think that it all started with some off-the-shelf hardware they wanted to unload.</p>
<p>I recently set up a major Press Day event at CES for a client and I actually used – gasp – Keynote, not PPT. The fact that they haven&#39;t continued to significantly refine their star Office products speaks volumes about Microsoft. </p>
<p>I&#39;m a big fan of competition, so I hope that Microsoft makes some serious changes before it&#39;s too late once again. Starting with their R&amp;D lifecycle. I personally think that Apple&#39;s is too fast, but Microsoft is plodding along slower than ever. They missed the first ship that sailed in the mobile devices market. Windows Mobile was a cruel joke and I was certainly one of the guinea pigs. Let&#39;s see if they can&#39;t get it together for the next generation of smart phones.</p>
<p>As far as incorporating the Zune competently into other devices&#8230; I&#39;ll believe it when I see it.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well i have had a zune since they first came out the zune is good and seems to hold up to anything . I think they should keep going and just make things a little cheaper. Also they need to get more products for the zune like docking stations,and better chargers. I really feel that its a great product and would hate to see it go away..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i have had a zune since they first came out the zune is good and seems to hold up to anything . I think they should keep going and just make things a little cheaper. Also they need to get more products for the zune like docking stations,and better chargers. I really feel that its a great product and would hate to see it go away..</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 02:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an 80gb Zune and love it. The reason Ipod is dominating is because of the early release, plus the brilliant marketing around. 

For the hardware/software itself, I feel its better than the ipod...the only people that have negative things to say have probably never had one, or have only used it for brief periods of time.

ex: the &quot;track ball&quot; scrolling feature is far superior to the circle scroll on the ipod.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an 80gb Zune and love it. The reason Ipod is dominating is because of the early release, plus the brilliant marketing around. </p>
<p>For the hardware/software itself, I feel its better than the ipod&#8230;the only people that have negative things to say have probably never had one, or have only used it for brief periods of time.</p>
<p>ex: the &quot;track ball&quot; scrolling feature is far superior to the circle scroll on the ipod.</p>
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		<title>By: LindaR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LindaR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bought a Zune 120GB and LOVE IT.. I had an IPOD previously...but would buy another Zune in the future!  I have tons of music on mine, and have only used half the storage space. I had a small issue with it, called MS cust. Service and was treated great!  I could only get a fraction of the space with an IPOD for the same price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought a Zune 120GB and LOVE IT.. I had an IPOD previously&#8230;but would buy another Zune in the future!  I have tons of music on mine, and have only used half the storage space. I had a small issue with it, called MS cust. Service and was treated great!  I could only get a fraction of the space with an IPOD for the same price.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I own two Zunes. I have never had a single problem with them. I paid $20 less for my 8gb than the iPod alternative, and it has a radio whereas the iPod does not.

I would be very disappointed to see it go away. I am looking forward to future versions and added features.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own two Zunes. I have never had a single problem with them. I paid $20 less for my 8gb than the iPod alternative, and it has a radio whereas the iPod does not.</p>
<p>I would be very disappointed to see it go away. I am looking forward to future versions and added features.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryck</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason why I haven&#039;t gotten Zune is that I&#039;m watching Microsoft having cold feet on a number of things. When Bill Gates ran Microsoft he was definately more decisive than the current leadership at Microsoft. 

MSN suddenly dropped their Music platform a couple of years ago, got more cold feet in their commitments to buy Yahoo, and that the first version of Zune was not reported on well. 

The second version of Zune got good reviews but the Z2K leap year bug was an amazing oversight and disgrace and held back my purchase of the Zune. One has to wonder what other bugs they haven&#039;t checked for.

I don&#039;t know if Microsoft is really comitted to the Zune. That leaves Creative Lab&#039;s Zen more attractive. Especially since it doesn&#039;t bind one to a music platform and music service as Apple&#039;s iPod and MS&#039;s Zune does. 

I&#039;m keeping my eye on the Zen unless Microsoft really commits themselves and take control of the Zune.

Mind you. I still like Apple&#039;s iPod but they can do better pirce and feature wise; and I don&#039;t like virtual monopolies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason why I haven&#39;t gotten Zune is that I&#39;m watching Microsoft having cold feet on a number of things. When Bill Gates ran Microsoft he was definately more decisive than the current leadership at Microsoft. </p>
<p>MSN suddenly dropped their Music platform a couple of years ago, got more cold feet in their commitments to buy Yahoo, and that the first version of Zune was not reported on well. </p>
<p>The second version of Zune got good reviews but the Z2K leap year bug was an amazing oversight and disgrace and held back my purchase of the Zune. One has to wonder what other bugs they haven&#39;t checked for.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t know if Microsoft is really comitted to the Zune. That leaves Creative Lab&#39;s Zen more attractive. Especially since it doesn&#39;t bind one to a music platform and music service as Apple&#39;s iPod and MS&#39;s Zune does. </p>
<p>I&#39;m keeping my eye on the Zen unless Microsoft really commits themselves and take control of the Zune.</p>
<p>Mind you. I still like Apple&#39;s iPod but they can do better pirce and feature wise; and I don&#39;t like virtual monopolies.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuniesta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zuniesta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bought both my son a 30G Zune 2 christmas&#039; ago.  He has downloaded many movies, shows and 2000 songs and not one single problem.  He&#039;s dropped it, sat on it, left in the heat and cold and even played football with it once (he&#039;s an offensive lineman).  I only paid 79 for a 30 gig, how much of an I-Pod will that get me?  I&#039;ll stick with the Zune anyday!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought both my son a 30G Zune 2 christmas&#39; ago.  He has downloaded many movies, shows and 2000 songs and not one single problem.  He&#39;s dropped it, sat on it, left in the heat and cold and even played football with it once (he&#39;s an offensive lineman).  I only paid 79 for a 30 gig, how much of an I-Pod will that get me?  I&#39;ll stick with the Zune anyday!</p>
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		<title>By: Moe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Moe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was late to the digital party but I love my Zune. I work a boring assembly line job and my NPR podcasts, major network newscasts and Countdown With Keith Olberman keep me informed and entertained. I&#039;ve had to replace mine twice, glad I got the warranty, but I would rather use Zune than give Apple any more market share. Seems like 90% of the accessories such as speakers, docking stations and the like are all Ipod all the time...THIS is a free market? I don&#039;t think Microsoft did a very good job of marketing, hence the &quot;in touch&quot; types who&#039;ve never heard of Zune...but those &quot;hipsters&quot; don&#039;t know what they&#039;re missing. If you prefer &quot;my tunes&quot; to iTunes, give a Zune a try.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was late to the digital party but I love my Zune. I work a boring assembly line job and my NPR podcasts, major network newscasts and Countdown With Keith Olberman keep me informed and entertained. I&#39;ve had to replace mine twice, glad I got the warranty, but I would rather use Zune than give Apple any more market share. Seems like 90% of the accessories such as speakers, docking stations and the like are all Ipod all the time&#8230;THIS is a free market? I don&#39;t think Microsoft did a very good job of marketing, hence the &quot;in touch&quot; types who&#39;ve never heard of Zune&#8230;but those &quot;hipsters&quot; don&#39;t know what they&#39;re missing. If you prefer &quot;my tunes&quot; to iTunes, give a Zune a try.</p>
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