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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Time To Stop Using Downloads As The Key Metric For Apps Success</title>
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	<description>The economics of digital content</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Downloads are a small part of understanding your users, where, how, when and what are your users doing with the app you spent hours building. 

 Check out http://app47.com for all the analytics you need. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downloads are a small part of understanding your users, where, how, when and what are your users doing with the app you spent hours building. </p>
<p> Check out <a href="http://app47.com" rel="nofollow">http://app47.com</a> for all the analytics you need. </p>
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		<title>By: Rk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And &#039;active users&#039; is proportional to download figures. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And &#8216;active users&#8217; is proportional to download figures. </p>
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		<title>By: Rk</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2011/09/12/419-its-time-to-stop-using-downloads-as-the-key-metric-for-apps-success/#comment-85228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 18:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Downloads obviously translate to potential advertising revenues, just like how higher page hits on internet translate to higher rates on advertisements. Just like my finance Prof who just made fun of &quot;hits&quot; on internet, this article tries to make fun of downloads. Agreed, downloads by themselves do not mean anything, but those in business understand these metrics translate to $.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Downloads obviously translate to potential advertising revenues, just like how higher page hits on internet translate to higher rates on advertisements. Just like my finance Prof who just made fun of &#8220;hits&#8221; on internet, this article tries to make fun of downloads. Agreed, downloads by themselves do not mean anything, but those in business understand these metrics translate to $.</p>
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		<title>By: RedMercury</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedMercury]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait.  These metrics were perfectly reasonable when Apple was ahead.  Now that other stores are catching up or surpassing Apple, these metrics aren&#039;t useful?

One of the things to also keep in mind is that the &quot;paid download&quot; argument isn&#039;t quite fair as there are lots of apps--probably more on Android than on iOS--which are free yet receive revenue from in-app advertising.

Quick!  We have to find a new model where Apple excels!  I know!  How about how much users get charged for the Apps?  That seems like a good one--since most Android apps are free/ad-supported, there&#039;s no way to track that info for Android!  So we can compare revenue from sales against revenue from sales and Apple will still come out ahead!  Brilliant!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait.  These metrics were perfectly reasonable when Apple was ahead.  Now that other stores are catching up or surpassing Apple, these metrics aren&#8217;t useful?</p>
<p>One of the things to also keep in mind is that the &#8220;paid download&#8221; argument isn&#8217;t quite fair as there are lots of apps&#8211;probably more on Android than on iOS&#8211;which are free yet receive revenue from in-app advertising.</p>
<p>Quick!  We have to find a new model where Apple excels!  I know!  How about how much users get charged for the Apps?  That seems like a good one&#8211;since most Android apps are free/ad-supported, there&#8217;s no way to track that info for Android!  So we can compare revenue from sales against revenue from sales and Apple will still come out ahead!  Brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: fring</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fring]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed, absolute download numbers are one dimensional, ignore other more relevant factors and lead to much useless cheerleading. Other factors, arguably more important, would include numbers of free/paid apps, app class ie. utility v time waster, revenue model, market penetration etc. etc.
I do think it&#039;s worth pointing out that, contrary to Ovums projections, Apple has already passed the 15B download figure(July &#039;11) after the 10B download countdown in Jan &#039;11(won by a British woman) and could easily achieve 20B by years end given a doubling rate year on year. So how do these figures square with Ovums figure of 6B for this year or that Apple has(probably) already exceeded the 2016 projected figure, half a year and 4 years ahead of their schedule?
It certainly leads to accusations of misleading fudging and platform bias.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, absolute download numbers are one dimensional, ignore other more relevant factors and lead to much useless cheerleading. Other factors, arguably more important, would include numbers of free/paid apps, app class ie. utility v time waster, revenue model, market penetration etc. etc.<br />
I do think it&#8217;s worth pointing out that, contrary to Ovums projections, Apple has already passed the 15B download figure(July &#8217;11) after the 10B download countdown in Jan &#8217;11(won by a British woman) and could easily achieve 20B by years end given a doubling rate year on year. So how do these figures square with Ovums figure of 6B for this year or that Apple has(probably) already exceeded the 2016 projected figure, half a year and 4 years ahead of their schedule?<br />
It certainly leads to accusations of misleading fudging and platform bias.</p>
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		<title>By: xan_user</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[xan_user]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 15:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I rather see the total downloads continue to be used as a measuring stick for apps rather than using profits made from their sale. One of the main advantages of android over iOS is how many great apps are free. Plus many great droid apps only ask for donations rather than making you buy an unknown app without trying it first. I bought a few apps for my itouch that really sucked, and had no way to return them for a refund.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rather see the total downloads continue to be used as a measuring stick for apps rather than using profits made from their sale. One of the main advantages of android over iOS is how many great apps are free. Plus many great droid apps only ask for donations rather than making you buy an unknown app without trying it first. I bought a few apps for my itouch that really sucked, and had no way to return them for a refund.</p>
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		<title>By: Finn Kirkland</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finn Kirkland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A more useful stat to shout about would be the Google Analytics stats for apps.., although I haven&#039;t seen this anywhere yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A more useful stat to shout about would be the Google Analytics stats for apps.., although I haven&#8217;t seen this anywhere yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Magnus Jern</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Magnus Jern]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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In some cases number of downloads (or at least one-off use of the app) is perfectly fine as we pointed out in a recent article (http://www.mobilecommercedaily.com/2011/08/22/mobile-apps-as-part-of-a-short-term-campaign). The real question should always be what are your objectives as a developer or app publisher and then the metrics follow from that. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some cases number of downloads (or at least one-off use of the app) is perfectly fine as we pointed out in a recent article (<a href="http://www.mobilecommercedaily.com/2011/08/22/mobile-apps-as-part-of-a-short-term-campaign" rel="nofollow">http://www.mobilecommercedaily.com/2011/08/22/mobile-apps-as-part-of-a-short-term-campaign</a>). The real question should always be what are your objectives as a developer or app publisher and then the metrics follow from that. </p>
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		<title>By: Alessandro Galetto</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alessandro Galetto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 09:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I think we are missing a couple of key metric in this evaluation. 

We know very well how many times an application has been downloaded, but we do not have any clue of the application life after that event. Life of the application on the phone, and usage are key metrics that are needed to evaluate your application success.

True said you can get some of those informations from back end connectivity, if your application has some but it would be great to have those date coming from the App Store.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I think we are missing a couple of key metric in this evaluation. </p>
<p>We know very well how many times an application has been downloaded, but we do not have any clue of the application life after that event. Life of the application on the phone, and usage are key metrics that are needed to evaluate your application success.</p>
<p>True said you can get some of those informations from back end connectivity, if your application has some but it would be great to have those date coming from the App Store.</p>
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