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	<title>Comments on: I Made The Wrong Choice With Facebook</title>
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		<title>By: Billy Zane</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Billy Zane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[used it briefly a while back to see what it was all about and gave up quickly (didnt use my real name).
I dont need more &#039;friends&#039; that I dont really know or waste more time online than I do
and if someone I know needs to reach me, my phone number has been the same for 20yrs. (or SMS when Im in a meeting).
And if someone wants to send me a picture or video or joke or link, they can email me from any computer-phone because its universal. (I share pix through Flickr and other such)
maybe im an old fart and maybe its because ive been through the geocities (look ma, i have a web page) phase, the Classmates craze, myspace, beebo, and everything in between but FB gives me too little for what it demands from me.

But as the years move on, the sheer amount of times Ive said &quot;Im happy I decided not to use it&quot; has been staggering.  This latest episode is just the latest episode and wont be the last because of their business model: your information.

ive had my sister in law being stalked by an ex girlfriend of her brothers because she leaves all her information on FB like where she works.
Ive seen people get in trouble over their FB content at work including one who was fired (for being stupid and posting pictures that only his 500 or so closest &#039;friends&#039; could see.)
i work in investigations and identity theft has absolutely skyrocketed the past 10 yrs and yet people will still willingly devulge tons of precious info.

you made the wrong choice but at least you admit your error.
its the first step to curing any FB addiction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>used it briefly a while back to see what it was all about and gave up quickly (didnt use my real name).<br />
I dont need more &#8216;friends&#8217; that I dont really know or waste more time online than I do<br />
and if someone I know needs to reach me, my phone number has been the same for 20yrs. (or SMS when Im in a meeting).<br />
And if someone wants to send me a picture or video or joke or link, they can email me from any computer-phone because its universal. (I share pix through Flickr and other such)<br />
maybe im an old fart and maybe its because ive been through the geocities (look ma, i have a web page) phase, the Classmates craze, myspace, beebo, and everything in between but FB gives me too little for what it demands from me.</p>
<p>But as the years move on, the sheer amount of times Ive said &#8220;Im happy I decided not to use it&#8221; has been staggering.  This latest episode is just the latest episode and wont be the last because of their business model: your information.</p>
<p>ive had my sister in law being stalked by an ex girlfriend of her brothers because she leaves all her information on FB like where she works.<br />
Ive seen people get in trouble over their FB content at work including one who was fired (for being stupid and posting pictures that only his 500 or so closest &#8216;friends&#8217; could see.)<br />
i work in investigations and identity theft has absolutely skyrocketed the past 10 yrs and yet people will still willingly devulge tons of precious info.</p>
<p>you made the wrong choice but at least you admit your error.<br />
its the first step to curing any FB addiction.</p>
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		<title>By: mts</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...and of course, know that you don&#039;t have to log in to facebook connect, or &quot;like&quot; something for facebook to track you on a site that has &quot;like&quot; buttons. You simply have to have logged into facebook once. when you do that, they place a cookie on your browser and when you travel to a site that either has a like button or facebook connect, they can know that you&#039;ve been there. in other words, the &quot;like&quot; buttons themselves transmit to your cookie, and back to facebook that you&#039;ve been there.

this has been a widely reported story over the last couple of days, and facebook&#039;s been playing PR damage control.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and of course, know that you don&#8217;t have to log in to facebook connect, or &#8220;like&#8221; something for facebook to track you on a site that has &#8220;like&#8221; buttons. You simply have to have logged into facebook once. when you do that, they place a cookie on your browser and when you travel to a site that either has a like button or facebook connect, they can know that you&#8217;ve been there. in other words, the &#8220;like&#8221; buttons themselves transmit to your cookie, and back to facebook that you&#8217;ve been there.</p>
<p>this has been a widely reported story over the last couple of days, and facebook&#8217;s been playing PR damage control.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Donatello</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Donatello]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the Facebook folks wanted to defuse this quickly, they&#039;d provide an easy, one-click method of opting out of this feature -- completely out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Facebook folks wanted to defuse this quickly, they&#8217;d provide an easy, one-click method of opting out of this feature &#8212; completely out.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Wagner</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2011/09/26/419-i-made-the-wrong-choice-with-facebook/#comment-85436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shannon Wagner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After reading this post I was surprised the author said that by reading an article on The Guardian, Facebook would record my activity on my profile. I tested it by reading an article - as I expected, nothing showed on my profile. My guess is that this is because I never gave The Guardian&#039;s Facebook application permission to post to my profile - in fact, I never installed The Guardian&#039;s application because I don&#039;t have any reason to - I can read the site&#039;s articles without an application.

Of course, if I had installed an application for a website, or had used Facebook Connect to login to a website, I would *expect* that site to be able to post to my profile, as long as I had agreed to that permission setting. Facebook applications have been doing this for years, and Facebook&#039;s privacy / security settings have given users ways to control this for years.

My guess is that there is something new going on here, or else I wouldn&#039;t be seeing so many people talk about it, but what is new? As far as I can tell, what the author of the post mentioned is *not* new (and doesn&#039;t even concern me, since I can control it very easily).

Any thoughts?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this post I was surprised the author said that by reading an article on The Guardian, Facebook would record my activity on my profile. I tested it by reading an article &#8211; as I expected, nothing showed on my profile. My guess is that this is because I never gave The Guardian&#8217;s Facebook application permission to post to my profile &#8211; in fact, I never installed The Guardian&#8217;s application because I don&#8217;t have any reason to &#8211; I can read the site&#8217;s articles without an application.</p>
<p>Of course, if I had installed an application for a website, or had used Facebook Connect to login to a website, I would *expect* that site to be able to post to my profile, as long as I had agreed to that permission setting. Facebook applications have been doing this for years, and Facebook&#8217;s privacy / security settings have given users ways to control this for years.</p>
<p>My guess is that there is something new going on here, or else I wouldn&#8217;t be seeing so many people talk about it, but what is new? As far as I can tell, what the author of the post mentioned is *not* new (and doesn&#8217;t even concern me, since I can control it very easily).</p>
<p>Any thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2011/09/26/419-i-made-the-wrong-choice-with-facebook/#comment-85435</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nNovembre

Thanks for clearing that up. I&#039;ve never connected via FB so that shouldn&#039;t be a concern. That said.... it&#039;s perhaps time to leave anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nNovembre</p>
<p>Thanks for clearing that up. I&#8217;ve never connected via FB so that shouldn&#8217;t be a concern. That said&#8230;. it&#8217;s perhaps time to leave anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: nNovembre</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nNovembre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve already deleted all of my photos and most of everything else I have on facebook. Nearly ready to be completely facebook free. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve already deleted all of my photos and most of everything else I have on facebook. Nearly ready to be completely facebook free. </p>
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		<title>By: nNovembre</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2011/09/26/419-i-made-the-wrong-choice-with-facebook/#comment-85433</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nNovembre]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, you don&#039;t need to &quot;Like&quot; the page from within facebook, you only need to use facebook connect to login to any other site. A lot of people don&#039;t seem to remember that doing that allows facebook to monitor anything they do on that, or any other site that they login to using facebook connect. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, you don&#8217;t need to &#8220;Like&#8221; the page from within facebook, you only need to use facebook connect to login to any other site. A lot of people don&#8217;t seem to remember that doing that allows facebook to monitor anything they do on that, or any other site that they login to using facebook connect. </p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2011/09/26/419-i-made-the-wrong-choice-with-facebook/#comment-85432</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 11:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tim, much appreciated.

This is a scary development. Would you mind clarifying this statement:

&quot;just *reading* an article could end up being reported on Facebook if that site has set it up to do so and you have approved that site in the past&quot;

By this, do you mean Facebook might &#039;share&#039; what I&#039;m looking at if I had previously signed into a site using Facebook (something I&#039;ve taken pains never to do)? Surely Facebook can only report what on sites we&#039;ve previously &#039;given our permission&#039; for Facebook to interact with - even if that was only by (naively) doing something as innocent as signing in via Facebook? Or will it be more &#039;frictionless&#039; than that?

If Facebook starts reporting everything I&#039;m doing online - which isn&#039;t all that interesting, but even so - then I&#039;ll delete all my content, remove every friend and deactivate my account, never to return. As will just about everyone else I know.

If you - or anyone - has any links for further reading I&#039;d be immensely grateful. Just having to be concerned about this - having to waste part of my day thinking about it and looking into it - makes me think that it&#039;s time to close my account. Perhaps that&#039;s no bad thing....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim, much appreciated.</p>
<p>This is a scary development. Would you mind clarifying this statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;just *reading* an article could end up being reported on Facebook if that site has set it up to do so and you have approved that site in the past&#8221;</p>
<p>By this, do you mean Facebook might &#8216;share&#8217; what I&#8217;m looking at if I had previously signed into a site using Facebook (something I&#8217;ve taken pains never to do)? Surely Facebook can only report what on sites we&#8217;ve previously &#8216;given our permission&#8217; for Facebook to interact with &#8211; even if that was only by (naively) doing something as innocent as signing in via Facebook? Or will it be more &#8216;frictionless&#8217; than that?</p>
<p>If Facebook starts reporting everything I&#8217;m doing online &#8211; which isn&#8217;t all that interesting, but even so &#8211; then I&#8217;ll delete all my content, remove every friend and deactivate my account, never to return. As will just about everyone else I know.</p>
<p>If you &#8211; or anyone &#8211; has any links for further reading I&#8217;d be immensely grateful. Just having to be concerned about this &#8211; having to waste part of my day thinking about it and looking into it &#8211; makes me think that it&#8217;s time to close my account. Perhaps that&#8217;s no bad thing&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim [techfruit]</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2011/09/26/419-i-made-the-wrong-choice-with-facebook/#comment-85431</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim [techfruit]]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can turn parts of it off, but yes just *reading* an article could end up being reported on Facebook if that site has set it up to do so and you have approved that site in the past (or after doing so in the future).

I was happy with the &quot;like&quot;/&quot;recommend&quot; buttons posting to Facebook, but now they are moving towards &quot;frictionless sharing&quot; where the user shares by default. They are making the move because they claim that whilst people wanted to share this data, the single click was too much effort.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can turn parts of it off, but yes just *reading* an article could end up being reported on Facebook if that site has set it up to do so and you have approved that site in the past (or after doing so in the future).</p>
<p>I was happy with the &#8220;like&#8221;/&#8221;recommend&#8221; buttons posting to Facebook, but now they are moving towards &#8220;frictionless sharing&#8221; where the user shares by default. They are making the move because they claim that whilst people wanted to share this data, the single click was too much effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The fact Facebook now posts whenever I read articles by The Guardian is spooky and weird&quot;

Surely this only happens if you &#039;Like&#039; the page. I haven&#039;t seen any posts telling me what my friends have been looking at while surfing. Is this scaremongering for the sake of an article, or is everything we do online about to be reported on Facebook in realtime? I can&#039;t see how their T&amp;Cs could cover reporting EVERYTHING we do without our explicit consent.

Would someone mind explaining?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The fact Facebook now posts whenever I read articles by The Guardian is spooky and weird&#8221;</p>
<p>Surely this only happens if you &#8216;Like&#8217; the page. I haven&#8217;t seen any posts telling me what my friends have been looking at while surfing. Is this scaremongering for the sake of an article, or is everything we do online about to be reported on Facebook in realtime? I can&#8217;t see how their T&#038;Cs could cover reporting EVERYTHING we do without our explicit consent.</p>
<p>Would someone mind explaining?</p>
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