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	<title>Comments on: Self-Published Authors Sharply Criticize Penguin&#039;s Book Country</title>
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		<title>By: Dualhammers</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dualhammers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 05:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t sell your services short, Kat.  Good editing and quality design work are difficult jobs that have their own level of craft.  Working cheap on volume does not always lead to quality work.  


Publishing houses do have a lot of problems but they often are willing to pay the bill to hire editors and designers who are very good at their job and pay them accordingly.  An individual author often lacks the money to do that on their own and their work suffers because of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t sell your services short, Kat.  Good editing and quality design work are difficult jobs that have their own level of craft.  Working cheap on volume does not always lead to quality work.  </p>
<p>Publishing houses do have a lot of problems but they often are willing to pay the bill to hire editors and designers who are very good at their job and pay them accordingly.  An individual author often lacks the money to do that on their own and their work suffers because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: AusLit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AusLit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 07:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AUTHORS BEWARE
D Publishing by Australia&#039;s largest bookseller, Dymocks.

I commented about this on Facebook the night of Dec 8. D Publishing withdrew their Publishing Agreement agreement and replaced it with a reworded version on Dec 9. The problems remain, but disguised by less direct language, which is even more concerning when it comes to authors not experienced in the business side of publishing and with contracts.

The following article outlines a series of major problems with their Publishing Agreement
http://auslit.net/2011/12/09/d-publishing-by-dymocks-books-authors-bewar/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AUTHORS BEWARE<br />
D Publishing by Australia&#8217;s largest bookseller, Dymocks.</p>
<p>I commented about this on Facebook the night of Dec 8. D Publishing withdrew their Publishing Agreement agreement and replaced it with a reworded version on Dec 9. The problems remain, but disguised by less direct language, which is even more concerning when it comes to authors not experienced in the business side of publishing and with contracts.</p>
<p>The following article outlines a series of major problems with their Publishing Agreement<br />
<a href="http://auslit.net/2011/12/09/d-publishing-by-dymocks-books-authors-bewar/" rel="nofollow">http://auslit.net/2011/12/09/d-publishing-by-dymocks-books-authors-bewar/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The entire purpose of self-publication is to cut out the middle man. In this case, the middle man comes knocking to crash the party. 

I don&#039;t see why an author would shell out $549 for someone else to format their manuscript and upload it, when those are one-time things, and a third-party independent contractor can do that for a fraction of the cost. E-formatting is not rocket science. You can hire someone to do it for you, or play with the preview option until it&#039;s to your liking. While I understand that some self-pubs aren&#039;t DIY, there&#039;s cheaper alternatives. What, exactly, about the $549 package is worth the money?

I&#039;m a freelance graphic designer. For a book-formatting package, I wouldn&#039;t charge anywhere near this amount. And for that amount, I&#039;d design a cover, draft a press release, and spend some time with the author developing a social media strategy to boot. 

Also, for print publication, CreateSpace is, quite technically, free. You can pay for the proof, or publish without. Nothing that Book Country is quoting is optional. You&#039;re charged a fee for up-front usage. This is a vanity press, not a self-pub. World of difference there. 

Yes, Book Country is acknowledging self-publishing as viable, and yet it&#039;s counting on a self-publishing author to not research their options and hand over money for something that they may not have to pay for with someone else. It&#039;s not illegal, but it&#039;s definitely not good, and they make out like bandits on that, at the author&#039;s expense. One step forward, two steps back. 

And last time I checked, no one had revoked the rule of thumb of the writing world that the money flows to the author, not the other way around. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire purpose of self-publication is to cut out the middle man. In this case, the middle man comes knocking to crash the party. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see why an author would shell out $549 for someone else to format their manuscript and upload it, when those are one-time things, and a third-party independent contractor can do that for a fraction of the cost. E-formatting is not rocket science. You can hire someone to do it for you, or play with the preview option until it&#8217;s to your liking. While I understand that some self-pubs aren&#8217;t DIY, there&#8217;s cheaper alternatives. What, exactly, about the $549 package is worth the money?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a freelance graphic designer. For a book-formatting package, I wouldn&#8217;t charge anywhere near this amount. And for that amount, I&#8217;d design a cover, draft a press release, and spend some time with the author developing a social media strategy to boot. </p>
<p>Also, for print publication, CreateSpace is, quite technically, free. You can pay for the proof, or publish without. Nothing that Book Country is quoting is optional. You&#8217;re charged a fee for up-front usage. This is a vanity press, not a self-pub. World of difference there. </p>
<p>Yes, Book Country is acknowledging self-publishing as viable, and yet it&#8217;s counting on a self-publishing author to not research their options and hand over money for something that they may not have to pay for with someone else. It&#8217;s not illegal, but it&#8217;s definitely not good, and they make out like bandits on that, at the author&#8217;s expense. One step forward, two steps back. </p>
<p>And last time I checked, no one had revoked the rule of thumb of the writing world that the money flows to the author, not the other way around. </p>
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		<title>By: athenap</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[athenap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d be willing to believe the mostly good faith thing a little more if I hadn&#039;t seen many, many Penguin works out there in e-format that were poor-quality and obviously either scanned or slapped-up e-versions of their print offerings.

I&#039;d also be more willing to believe in good faith if it weren&#039;t obvious that the upload process is a single, discrete event--it&#039;s a mouse-click. It happens once. And it&#039;s more than likely going to be performed by an underpaid or non-paid intern. And for that, they want 30% of every single copy sold, either demonstrating that they want to be repaid over and over for an action they did once, or demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of how electrons move--they do not have to perform that upload mouse-click every time a buyer purchases a book.

I&#039;d also be more willing to believe in good faith if it weren&#039;t also obvious that Penguin still seems to insist on catering to their legacy accounting systems that simply can&#039;t handle the real-time tools the major distributors have available.

If this is not a thinly-veiled attempt at a money-grab, flavored with scorn for the content producers, it is at best a rigid attempt to force self-publishing into a model that subjects itself to the very inflexibility of traditional publishing that the self-pub broke out of. It&#039;s fitting a square peg into a round hole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be willing to believe the mostly good faith thing a little more if I hadn&#8217;t seen many, many Penguin works out there in e-format that were poor-quality and obviously either scanned or slapped-up e-versions of their print offerings.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also be more willing to believe in good faith if it weren&#8217;t obvious that the upload process is a single, discrete event&#8211;it&#8217;s a mouse-click. It happens once. And it&#8217;s more than likely going to be performed by an underpaid or non-paid intern. And for that, they want 30% of every single copy sold, either demonstrating that they want to be repaid over and over for an action they did once, or demonstrating a fundamental misunderstanding of how electrons move&#8211;they do not have to perform that upload mouse-click every time a buyer purchases a book.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also be more willing to believe in good faith if it weren&#8217;t also obvious that Penguin still seems to insist on catering to their legacy accounting systems that simply can&#8217;t handle the real-time tools the major distributors have available.</p>
<p>If this is not a thinly-veiled attempt at a money-grab, flavored with scorn for the content producers, it is at best a rigid attempt to force self-publishing into a model that subjects itself to the very inflexibility of traditional publishing that the self-pub broke out of. It&#8217;s fitting a square peg into a round hole.</p>
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		<title>By: athenap</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[athenap]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This &quot;service&quot; is optional the same way that falling into a hole in the middle of the sidewalk is &quot;optional.&quot; And it&#039;s neither a threat nor does it diminish my own success at avoiding the hole if I warn the guy coming up behind me that there&#039;s a hole in the middle of the sidewalk.

I am more than willing to share my mad hole-avoiding walking skills, and even if that guy behind me does not want to learn to walk around holes, I can tell you and him that falling into a hole is no way to make up for not knowing how to walk around one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This &#8220;service&#8221; is optional the same way that falling into a hole in the middle of the sidewalk is &#8220;optional.&#8221; And it&#8217;s neither a threat nor does it diminish my own success at avoiding the hole if I warn the guy coming up behind me that there&#8217;s a hole in the middle of the sidewalk.</p>
<p>I am more than willing to share my mad hole-avoiding walking skills, and even if that guy behind me does not want to learn to walk around holes, I can tell you and him that falling into a hole is no way to make up for not knowing how to walk around one.</p>
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		<title>By: Theresa M. Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theresa M. Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a no-brainer where I would go if I wanted to avail myself of a publishing service: anywhere but Penguin. See, the problem is that Penguin&#039;s terms are too limiting, and as a free range chicken for 40 years I don&#039;t see the point in arguing with another publishing company which takes pains to criticize the power of self-publishing. They had their chance back in 1972 and they blew it. It takes maybe 15 minutes to learn how to produce an ebook, and it&#039;s not that hard. There are also several quality publishing services which don&#039;t charge to produce an ebook; at least not at the rates Penguin would like to pay the author. More. I have self-published 15 books and an equal number of ebooks, short stories and essays without the &quot;help&quot; of anyone. Are self-published authors appreciated? No. Some of the greatest authors in history self-published before they were picked up by traditional publishers; in many cases long after they were dead. It makes no sense to endure the humiliation trad publishers heap on us. Give this one a wide berth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a no-brainer where I would go if I wanted to avail myself of a publishing service: anywhere but Penguin. See, the problem is that Penguin&#8217;s terms are too limiting, and as a free range chicken for 40 years I don&#8217;t see the point in arguing with another publishing company which takes pains to criticize the power of self-publishing. They had their chance back in 1972 and they blew it. It takes maybe 15 minutes to learn how to produce an ebook, and it&#8217;s not that hard. There are also several quality publishing services which don&#8217;t charge to produce an ebook; at least not at the rates Penguin would like to pay the author. More. I have self-published 15 books and an equal number of ebooks, short stories and essays without the &#8220;help&#8221; of anyone. Are self-published authors appreciated? No. Some of the greatest authors in history self-published before they were picked up by traditional publishers; in many cases long after they were dead. It makes no sense to endure the humiliation trad publishers heap on us. Give this one a wide berth.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkCoker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarkCoker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Laura, I think Penguin is doing this in good faith. Hand coding of ebooks requires manual human intervention, and people cost money.  The marketplace will ultimately judge their implementation and execution.  I agree with Fran, there is a need for paid services such as Book Country or Author Solutions that cater to writers who don&#039;t have the skills or initiative to prepare their own manuscripts for ebook production and distribution.  I also agree with David, Joe Konrath and other critics that most writers will do well to carefully consider one of the other options as well, my own included.  I have a horse in this race so consider my opinion worth the price paid to view it.  Our Smashwords Meatgrinder is the most-used (87,000+ books published, and 8,000+ releases in the last 30 days), most-loved and simultaneously most-ridiculed automated conversion system.  We make it fast, free and easy for any writer, anywhere in the world, to publish and distribute a quality ebook.  Our Smashwords Style Guide at http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/52 is probably the most-downloaded ebook formatting guide ever written (130,000+ downloads).  Coincidentally, writers who follow our Style Guide tend to appreciate the utility and capabilities of Meatgrinder, while those who don&#039;t follow the Style Guide are correctly inclined to conclude Meatgrinder turned their book to hamburger (true, it will if you don&#039;t follow the Style Guide).  Although I think we offer a compelling, affordable (free!) ebook publishing and distribution platform, I know there are many authors out there who require the services of others. We certainly don&#039;t try to satisfy all authors.  Authors who want to pick up the phone and speak with a live salesperson or customer service rep, for example, are quickly frustrated when they discover we provide online support only (and we don&#039;t sell services), so they go elsewhere. 

Traditional publishers offer a wide range of services not always recognized or appreciated by authors.  For authors who choose to self-publish, they soon realize the amount of work necessary to professionally publish.  The great thing about this new world is that authors have the power to make their own decisions.  They can do everything themselves, do some of it themselves, or outsource some or all of the required publishing responsibilities to one of the many providers who now fill the services spectrum.

Kudos to Book Country for recognizing self publishing as a viable option for professional authors.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Laura, I think Penguin is doing this in good faith. Hand coding of ebooks requires manual human intervention, and people cost money.  The marketplace will ultimately judge their implementation and execution.  I agree with Fran, there is a need for paid services such as Book Country or Author Solutions that cater to writers who don&#8217;t have the skills or initiative to prepare their own manuscripts for ebook production and distribution.  I also agree with David, Joe Konrath and other critics that most writers will do well to carefully consider one of the other options as well, my own included.  I have a horse in this race so consider my opinion worth the price paid to view it.  Our Smashwords Meatgrinder is the most-used (87,000+ books published, and 8,000+ releases in the last 30 days), most-loved and simultaneously most-ridiculed automated conversion system.  We make it fast, free and easy for any writer, anywhere in the world, to publish and distribute a quality ebook.  Our Smashwords Style Guide at <a href="http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/52" rel="nofollow">http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/52</a> is probably the most-downloaded ebook formatting guide ever written (130,000+ downloads).  Coincidentally, writers who follow our Style Guide tend to appreciate the utility and capabilities of Meatgrinder, while those who don&#8217;t follow the Style Guide are correctly inclined to conclude Meatgrinder turned their book to hamburger (true, it will if you don&#8217;t follow the Style Guide).  Although I think we offer a compelling, affordable (free!) ebook publishing and distribution platform, I know there are many authors out there who require the services of others. We certainly don&#8217;t try to satisfy all authors.  Authors who want to pick up the phone and speak with a live salesperson or customer service rep, for example, are quickly frustrated when they discover we provide online support only (and we don&#8217;t sell services), so they go elsewhere. </p>
<p>Traditional publishers offer a wide range of services not always recognized or appreciated by authors.  For authors who choose to self-publish, they soon realize the amount of work necessary to professionally publish.  The great thing about this new world is that authors have the power to make their own decisions.  They can do everything themselves, do some of it themselves, or outsource some or all of the required publishing responsibilities to one of the many providers who now fill the services spectrum.</p>
<p>Kudos to Book Country for recognizing self publishing as a viable option for professional authors.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Hazard Owen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Hazard Owen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some thoughts: 1) FWIW I do think Penguin is doing this in good--or not bad--faith. It&#039;s not a slapped-together service, it&#039;s been in the works for a long time.
2) That said, I understand the complaints about the service, and think a lot of them could be resolved if Penguin stops taking a 30% cut of outside sales (I don&#039;t know if it is inclined to change this)
3) I see value in some e-book publishing services for specific genres--Penguin&#039;s romance-specific fonts and designs, for instance--though those could be provided by any third party service...templates, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some thoughts: 1) FWIW I do think Penguin is doing this in good&#8211;or not bad&#8211;faith. It&#8217;s not a slapped-together service, it&#8217;s been in the works for a long time.<br />
2) That said, I understand the complaints about the service, and think a lot of them could be resolved if Penguin stops taking a 30% cut of outside sales (I don&#8217;t know if it is inclined to change this)<br />
3) I see value in some e-book publishing services for specific genres&#8211;Penguin&#8217;s romance-specific fonts and designs, for instance&#8211;though those could be provided by any third party service&#8230;templates, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Fawn Neun</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fawn Neun]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because Penguin is ripping them off and taking advantage of them. That&#039;s why. Because for years, the big 6 have sneered at self-published authors, now they&#039;re taking money from them. 

Look, I&#039;m in publishing and even I can see that it&#039;s just not cricket. It&#039;s one thing if they charge for formatting, but then to take 30% is robbery. Small publishers will do all the work - and I mean ALL the work, and only take 50%.

It&#039;s just a show of complete contempt for authors by the Big 6 - YET AGAIN. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because Penguin is ripping them off and taking advantage of them. That&#8217;s why. Because for years, the big 6 have sneered at self-published authors, now they&#8217;re taking money from them. </p>
<p>Look, I&#8217;m in publishing and even I can see that it&#8217;s just not cricket. It&#8217;s one thing if they charge for formatting, but then to take 30% is robbery. Small publishers will do all the work &#8211; and I mean ALL the work, and only take 50%.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a show of complete contempt for authors by the Big 6 &#8211; YET AGAIN. </p>
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		<title>By: DavidD</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DavidD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Fran, no one is &quot;threatened&quot; by this; Penguin will not be competitive with this business model, and one must be competitive to be a &quot;threat.&quot;

This is simply a bad deal, hence, the negativity arises from warnings, e.g., if I see gas at $8.00/gal but find it down the street at $3.00/gal, I am not &quot;threatened&quot; by the higher price, but my negativity of said price may bleed into warnings for others to avoid the 8.00/gal seller.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Fran, no one is &#8220;threatened&#8221; by this; Penguin will not be competitive with this business model, and one must be competitive to be a &#8220;threat.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is simply a bad deal, hence, the negativity arises from warnings, e.g., if I see gas at $8.00/gal but find it down the street at $3.00/gal, I am not &#8220;threatened&#8221; by the higher price, but my negativity of said price may bleed into warnings for others to avoid the 8.00/gal seller.</p>
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