Comments on: Why Both You And Carrier IQ Are Pawns In The Fight For Mobile Data http://paidcontent.org/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/ The economics of digital content Tue, 21 May 2013 07:31:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Steve Puluka http://paidcontent.org/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86482 Mon, 05 Dec 2011 01:17:00 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86482 There was an attempt in the late 90′s to have PC purchases subsidized by either the internet service or ads on the screen space.  But the movement failed for lack of volume to make the model work.

http://news.cnet.com/Free-PC-company-Gobi-eyeing-new-services/2100-1001_3-233537.html

]]> By: reneemjones http://paidcontent.org/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86481 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:45:49 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86481 The lesson they will learn is: hide it better and make the contract you force on customers take more of their rights.  That’s what they will learn.

]]> By: reneemjones http://paidcontent.org/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86480 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 21:44:48 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86480 This is what you get when companies are allowed to write their own laws into contracts and force you to accept them with no recourse.

The solution is simple.  Prohibit these one-sided, non-negotiated contracts.  When you buy a banana there is no contract.  When you buy a phone there should be no contract.  Copyright still protects the software.  No contract is needed for that.  The contract is needed to strip customers of the rights that they would ordinarily have under the law.  The contracts claim to “give” you things, but only the right to “use” the device.  You would have this right anyway! You don’t get anything.  They just take.  These contracts must be stopped.

]]> By: Guest http://paidcontent.org/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86479 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:05:52 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86479 Yeah, that’s example that I give to whoever defeats Carrier IQ. I’m not a programmer, so I don’t know if it being sort of being a debugger defends Carrier IQ (time will tell what it records anyway), but the way they treated Eckhart speaks volumes about company’s attitude and I’d love them to go down for that reason alone. So everytime other company CEO tries to play scare-tactics with customers, a little advisor will suddenly pop up above his shoulder and say “remember Carrier IQ?”.

]]> By: Shaun Dakin http://paidcontent.org/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86478 Sat, 03 Dec 2011 19:20:20 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/2011/12/03/419-why-both-you-and-carrier-iq-are-pawns-in-the-fight-for-mobile-data/#comment-86478 Great post.

I continue to be surprised (well maybe no longer) at companies that think they can intimidate others into not “divulging” information that is negative about them.

In an earlier time, this story would have died.   If it were not for the internet and YouTube (showing us the key strokes !) Carrier IQ would have gotten away with their cease and desist intimidation strategy (according to other articles they did intimidate several other “researchers” and they did remove their blog posts).

But, now, they are being asked to answer questions from every tech reporter in the world and the US Senate (Franken).

If they had been transparent from the start, none of this would have occurred.

This will be a case study in crisis communications for years to come.

Shaun Dakin
Founder @PrivacyCamp:twitter
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