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	<title>Comments on: SOPA Rep Blasts Wikipedia Blackout, Says Law To Go Forward In Feb.</title>
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		<title>By: Star Jonestown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Star Jonestown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 20:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;You&#039;re not getting it&quot; is the laziest rhetoric device anyone can employ.  It&#039;s the device of someone who is losing an argument.  

No, I&#039;m not getting it.  Because you&#039;re wrong.  Even your initial hypothesis re a &quot;billion dollar business&quot; is from the stone age.  A single film can be worth double that.  Make all the excuses you want, the era of Everything Free All the Time is over.  Artificial price compression because of theft is a combat-able problem in any business.  There is no logic that says &#039;Stealing is o.k. because...&#039; that is meaningful.  That&#039;s all just lazy B.S.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re not getting it&#8221; is the laziest rhetoric device anyone can employ.  It&#8217;s the device of someone who is losing an argument.  </p>
<p>No, I&#8217;m not getting it.  Because you&#8217;re wrong.  Even your initial hypothesis re a &#8220;billion dollar business&#8221; is from the stone age.  A single film can be worth double that.  Make all the excuses you want, the era of Everything Free All the Time is over.  Artificial price compression because of theft is a combat-able problem in any business.  There is no logic that says &#8216;Stealing is o.k. because&#8230;&#8217; that is meaningful.  That&#8217;s all just lazy B.S.  </p>
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		<title>By: contentnext</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[contentnext]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 14:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree with Pineapple, it&#039;s all about convenience for most people.  If it&#039;s easier and quicker to get what you want the legal way many people will go that route.  The problem is when the legal way is more complex and less easy. There&#039;s always going to be pirates of course.  But you shrink the pirate audience by making the legal way better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with Pineapple, it&#8217;s all about convenience for most people.  If it&#8217;s easier and quicker to get what you want the legal way many people will go that route.  The problem is when the legal way is more complex and less easy. There&#8217;s always going to be pirates of course.  But you shrink the pirate audience by making the legal way better.</p>
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		<title>By: Abraham Lincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Abraham Lincoln]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 07:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Pineapple</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pineapple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Star, people pirate because pirates offer them a better service. If you look at the video game industry, which has the same issues the major media companies do, they combat their piracy through digital distribution. To quote Gabe Newell, CEO of VALVe Corp., a major video game studio and developer of Steam, a popular digital distribution system:


&quot;&#039;We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,&#039; he said. &#039;If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate&#039;s service is more valuable.&#039;
...&#039;Prior to entering the Russian market, we were told that Russia was a waste of time because everyone would pirate our products. Russia is now about to become [Steam&#039;s] largest market in Europe,&#039;...&quot; (taken from The Escapist)

Steam is the best digital distribution system that has been developed for video games. It helps curb piracy by tying the purchased game to the buyer&#039;s account, which they can access by means of username and password. Steam also provides a means to communicate in game with friends, something that customers wouldn&#039;t get if they bought a pirated game. Better service = less piracy. 

Digital distribution has barely started from the big media companies, when that&#039;s exactly what people want and aren&#039;t getting. Hulu was one of the best things that happened to the internet, along with any form of clips released by media companies online. I didn&#039;t get to see Daniel Radcliffe host SNL, but I got to see the important bits released by NBC the next day. I got to consume media, and they made a profit off of me through their ad revenue. Everybody wins. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Star, people pirate because pirates offer them a better service. If you look at the video game industry, which has the same issues the major media companies do, they combat their piracy through digital distribution. To quote Gabe Newell, CEO of VALVe Corp., a major video game studio and developer of Steam, a popular digital distribution system:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,&#8217; he said. &#8216;If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate&#8217;s service is more valuable.&#8217;<br />
&#8230;&#8217;Prior to entering the Russian market, we were told that Russia was a waste of time because everyone would pirate our products. Russia is now about to become [Steam's] largest market in Europe,&#8217;&#8230;&#8221; (taken from The Escapist)</p>
<p>Steam is the best digital distribution system that has been developed for video games. It helps curb piracy by tying the purchased game to the buyer&#8217;s account, which they can access by means of username and password. Steam also provides a means to communicate in game with friends, something that customers wouldn&#8217;t get if they bought a pirated game. Better service = less piracy. </p>
<p>Digital distribution has barely started from the big media companies, when that&#8217;s exactly what people want and aren&#8217;t getting. Hulu was one of the best things that happened to the internet, along with any form of clips released by media companies online. I didn&#8217;t get to see Daniel Radcliffe host SNL, but I got to see the important bits released by NBC the next day. I got to consume media, and they made a profit off of me through their ad revenue. Everybody wins. </p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, but you&#039;re still not getting it. The reason there&#039;s so much piracy is that an enormous, untapped market exists that&#039;s not being served. Make the content available through legitimate means, don&#039;t criminalize would-be paying customers, and everyone wins.

Anti-competitive legislation isn&#039;t the answer, particularly not when the legislation contains numerous bolted-on provisions that are harmful to the public interest.

And no, few execs were aware that a legitimate market existed, even in private. Everyone insisted that few consumers were interested in watching movies and television on their computers or on a mobile device. Peter Chernin, who is one of the very, very few people in entertainment who is actually capable of independent thought, was a notable exception.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but you&#8217;re still not getting it. The reason there&#8217;s so much piracy is that an enormous, untapped market exists that&#8217;s not being served. Make the content available through legitimate means, don&#8217;t criminalize would-be paying customers, and everyone wins.</p>
<p>Anti-competitive legislation isn&#8217;t the answer, particularly not when the legislation contains numerous bolted-on provisions that are harmful to the public interest.</p>
<p>And no, few execs were aware that a legitimate market existed, even in private. Everyone insisted that few consumers were interested in watching movies and television on their computers or on a mobile device. Peter Chernin, who is one of the very, very few people in entertainment who is actually capable of independent thought, was a notable exception.</p>
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		<title>By: Star Jonestown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Star Jonestown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 00:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DS, what &quot;potential... business&quot; are you talking about?  One stolen file becomes circulated and mass-distributed for free.  That&#039;s what piracy is.   

And I don&#039;t need to go to freakin&#039; wikipedia to understand the hackneyed tech cliche you reference.  This isn&#039;t a technology issue, it is a theft issue.  Big tech - other than Apple and Amazon, who are credible partners - doesn&#039;t want to admit that they&#039;re used to traffic stolen digital files.  

Also, your history is wrong.  Whatever fictitious cabal of &quot;hollywood execs&quot; you&#039;re talking about was well aware of online distribution in 2006.  Creative coalitions have been trying to pass reform since 2000.  The intent is not to limit free speech; the intent is to monetize that for which there is a market (unless that same item is trafficked off the back of a truck or through a pirate&#039;s tool a la bit torrent).  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DS, what &#8220;potential&#8230; business&#8221; are you talking about?  One stolen file becomes circulated and mass-distributed for free.  That&#8217;s what piracy is.   </p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t need to go to freakin&#8217; wikipedia to understand the hackneyed tech cliche you reference.  This isn&#8217;t a technology issue, it is a theft issue.  Big tech &#8211; other than Apple and Amazon, who are credible partners &#8211; doesn&#8217;t want to admit that they&#8217;re used to traffic stolen digital files.  </p>
<p>Also, your history is wrong.  Whatever fictitious cabal of &#8220;hollywood execs&#8221; you&#8217;re talking about was well aware of online distribution in 2006.  Creative coalitions have been trying to pass reform since 2000.  The intent is not to limit free speech; the intent is to monetize that for which there is a market (unless that same item is trafficked off the back of a truck or through a pirate&#8217;s tool a la bit torrent).  </p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[16% of broadband traffic sounds like a potential billion dollar business in the making to me.

Five years ago, Hollywood execs didn&#039;t believe that a market for digital content existed yet it was completely obvious to anyone not working in the industry.

It took 2 years of rampant piracy on YouTube--and hundreds of millions of dollars of forgone revenue--to convince them to get around to launching Hulu.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16% of broadband traffic sounds like a potential billion dollar business in the making to me.</p>
<p>Five years ago, Hollywood execs didn&#8217;t believe that a market for digital content existed yet it was completely obvious to anyone not working in the industry.</p>
<p>It took 2 years of rampant piracy on YouTube&#8211;and hundreds of millions of dollars of forgone revenue&#8211;to convince them to get around to launching Hulu.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disruptive_technology</a></p>
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		<title>By: Star Jonestown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Star Jonestown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gengar, since you seem to philosophically support the end of piracy, what would you do to stop it?  Currently, 16% of broadband traffic is bit torrent (source: gigaom, stats from last summer).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gengar, since you seem to philosophically support the end of piracy, what would you do to stop it?  Currently, 16% of broadband traffic is bit torrent (source: gigaom, stats from last summer).</p>
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		<title>By: Star Jonestown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Star Jonestown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 23:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Would you mind being more specific and/or providing a concrete example?  

I&#039;m not being contrarian - I want to know more.  Thanks.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would you mind being more specific and/or providing a concrete example?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not being contrarian &#8211; I want to know more.  Thanks.  </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Peel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Peel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; &quot;It is ironic that a website dedicated to providing information is
spreading misinformation about the Stop Online Piracy Act. The bill will
 not harm Wikipedia, domestic blogs or social networking sites. This
publicity stunt does a disservice to its users by promoting fear instead
 of facts. Perhaps during the blackout, Internet users can look
elsewhere for an accurate definition of online piracy.&quot;

Wikimedians - those that voluntarily join in the process of writing Wikipedia - are amongst the best placed, and most experienced, people in identifying misinformation on the planet. They see people trying to insert misinformation into Wikipedia every day - and they ensure that it doesn&#039;t stay there. They ensure that information is backed up with reliable, verifiable references. That well over a thousand of them are saying that this legislation is a problem indicates that it is indeed a problem that will cause significant harm to Wikipedia and other collaborative projects. The blackout simply wouldn&#039;t be happening if that weren&#039;t the case.

This blackout is no publicity stunt. Wikipedia doesn&#039;t need publicity - it already has massive public impact without having to carry out any sort of stunt to gain extra publicity. It&#039;s not driven by publicity - it&#039;s driven by sharing factual knowledge freely with everyone on the planet. This blackout is a response to a threat that affects the fundamentals of the internet, and the basis upon which Wikipedia has been built. This legislation needs to be stopped, or it will cause irreparable damage to the internet as a whole.

Perhaps Rep. Smith can take advantage of this blackout to take a step back and appreciate and take onboard the concerns that the internet community is raising about this legislation, rather than taking the approach of &quot;promoting fear instead of facts&quot; that he is inaccurately (and ironically) accusing others of doing..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> &#8220;It is ironic that a website dedicated to providing information is<br />
spreading misinformation about the Stop Online Piracy Act. The bill will<br />
 not harm Wikipedia, domestic blogs or social networking sites. This<br />
publicity stunt does a disservice to its users by promoting fear instead<br />
 of facts. Perhaps during the blackout, Internet users can look<br />
elsewhere for an accurate definition of online piracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wikimedians &#8211; those that voluntarily join in the process of writing Wikipedia &#8211; are amongst the best placed, and most experienced, people in identifying misinformation on the planet. They see people trying to insert misinformation into Wikipedia every day &#8211; and they ensure that it doesn&#8217;t stay there. They ensure that information is backed up with reliable, verifiable references. That well over a thousand of them are saying that this legislation is a problem indicates that it is indeed a problem that will cause significant harm to Wikipedia and other collaborative projects. The blackout simply wouldn&#8217;t be happening if that weren&#8217;t the case.</p>
<p>This blackout is no publicity stunt. Wikipedia doesn&#8217;t need publicity &#8211; it already has massive public impact without having to carry out any sort of stunt to gain extra publicity. It&#8217;s not driven by publicity &#8211; it&#8217;s driven by sharing factual knowledge freely with everyone on the planet. This blackout is a response to a threat that affects the fundamentals of the internet, and the basis upon which Wikipedia has been built. This legislation needs to be stopped, or it will cause irreparable damage to the internet as a whole.</p>
<p>Perhaps Rep. Smith can take advantage of this blackout to take a step back and appreciate and take onboard the concerns that the internet community is raising about this legislation, rather than taking the approach of &#8220;promoting fear instead of facts&#8221; that he is inaccurately (and ironically) accusing others of doing..</p>
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