Comments on: Fair Use Or Free Riding? The AP’s New Attack On News Scraping http://paidcontent.org/2012/02/14/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/ The economics of digital content Thu, 20 Jun 2013 04:04:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Sean http://paidcontent.org/2012/02/14/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87729 Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:13:29 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87729 I completely agree with Dan.  Content theft is an ever growing threat and we need to help content producers learn about their options.  Jeff, if your readers are looking for help, we’ve built out a Content Protection Network called Distil.   www.distil.it   We’d love to hear your feedback if you have other ways to mitigate theft of the written word. 

]]> By: David BP http://paidcontent.org/2012/02/14/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87728 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:21:38 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87728 That’s a pretty irrelevant comment and shows that you dont understand this industry.

They don’t create the content because that is not what they do. the same as every other search engine or clippings company, they point people towards content.its like saying, ‘why doesnt google write content’

I am surprised people file law suits when they dont know the whole truth. for example, MW does not offer full text, we’ve tried their services and know that!

]]> By: Dan Taylor http://paidcontent.org/2012/02/14/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87727 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 16:54:33 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87727 Why doesn’t Meltwater go out and create the content? because it costs money. AP should have a right to protect its work. 

]]> By: robelroy http://paidcontent.org/2012/02/14/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87726 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:13:32 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87726 I just saw that. Irrespective, it’s the fourth claim and one that the AP will lose. The claims about cutting and pasting are all legit though. BTW, Meltwater seems to be a bit kooky…
http://antimeltwater.blogspot.com/

]]> By: invitedmedia http://paidcontent.org/2012/02/14/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87725 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:57:24 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87725 …picking up where righthaven left off?

]]> By: Jeff Roberts http://paidcontent.org/2012/02/14/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87724 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:50:45 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87724 Robelroy, thanks for your comment. If you look at page 30 of the complaint and elsewhere, you will see that AP is indeed making a ‘hot news’ claim against Meltwater (in addition to several copyright claims).

The crux of the hot news claim, as I understand it, is that Meltwater, under New York law, is allegedly wrongfully piggy-backing on the AP’s labor.

I am not weighing in of whether the AP is right or wrong in claiming hot news – I’m just observing that east coast publishers have recently been trying to pump new life into the doctrine.

]]> By: robelroy http://paidcontent.org/2012/02/14/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87723 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:23:44 +0000 http://paidcontent.wp.gostage.it/419-fair-use-or-free-riding-the-aps-new-attack-on-news-scraping/#comment-87723 This has nothing to do with the “hot news” doctrine, which went so far as to protect the substance of the news article- ie, that a revolution happened in Egypt or there were riots in Greece. Meltwater is far different- they copy AP stories WORD FOR WORD. At least AHN rewrites the stories from an AP template. This is totally different. Cut and Paste to earn money has never had any protections.

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