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	<title>Comments on: How Chicago Is Beating Silicon Valley At The Patent Game</title>
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		<title>By: rac</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 13:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newton and Leibniz independently invented the calculus.  Was this not a &quot;significant&quot; invention?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newton and Leibniz independently invented the calculus.  Was this not a &#8220;significant&#8221; invention?</p>
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		<title>By: Vic Kley</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vic Kley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 05:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You should not think of software as different then hardware. Its just a way to connect up a series of electric circuits and other elements. Any logic circuit can be executed in software, any software algorithm implemented as a logic circuit (state machine).  It can be an art object like a circuit board meaning a copyright or a novel idea invention like velcro.

As an example one might conceive of a new manner in which to perform the calculation of the inverse of a linear equation in which constants corresponding to the amplitude and phase of the tonal frequencies of each sound element of a sampled sound could be adjusted and the entire modified assembly played in real time.  This basic method could be done by any number of possible computer code combinations ALL FOLLOWING THE METHOD.  This then would be an invention and not something one could protect under a copyright.  A good example of such an invention is the Blackmun-Tuckey Fast Fourier Transform.

Such an invention is extremely valuable to society and industry.  Those who can create such things are inventors and deserve to receive a reward for the fruits of their creation along with other artists, writers, scientists and musicians.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should not think of software as different then hardware. Its just a way to connect up a series of electric circuits and other elements. Any logic circuit can be executed in software, any software algorithm implemented as a logic circuit (state machine).  It can be an art object like a circuit board meaning a copyright or a novel idea invention like velcro.</p>
<p>As an example one might conceive of a new manner in which to perform the calculation of the inverse of a linear equation in which constants corresponding to the amplitude and phase of the tonal frequencies of each sound element of a sampled sound could be adjusted and the entire modified assembly played in real time.  This basic method could be done by any number of possible computer code combinations ALL FOLLOWING THE METHOD.  This then would be an invention and not something one could protect under a copyright.  A good example of such an invention is the Blackmun-Tuckey Fast Fourier Transform.</p>
<p>Such an invention is extremely valuable to society and industry.  Those who can create such things are inventors and deserve to receive a reward for the fruits of their creation along with other artists, writers, scientists and musicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Zimmerman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karl Zimmerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel there needs to be some revision of patent law, though as a whole, it is working fairly well.  The few items I have issue with should be able to be repaired fairly easily, while still keeping the majority of the patent system as-is.

From my point of view, the real issue is with the lack of scrutiny many patent applications seem to go under.  This seems to be an issue almost exclusively with software and business concept patents.  I have seen numerous patents that all seem to be for effectively the same thing, or things that are no different than what already exists.  One of my real pet peeves is where a single idea gets patented multiple times simply by being moved to a different medium.  To me, that is the same idea, some of these ideas have existed for hundreds of years, yet when a new medium comes out, people are able to re-patent that idea on a new medium.  The one I recall best was a patent for something like &quot;awarding prizes based on your performance in a game on a mobile platform.&quot;  Now, this patent would prevent companies that existed using that business plan in other mediums, from entering that new medium.

You also need to admit, that a company which to most people is only there to horde patents and sue people for using their technology, while they produce nothing themselves, does just seem like a terrible thing.  That they are paying the actual inventor for these inventions, thus encouraging the creation of these inventions in the first place, gets lost.  I am unfamiliar with the function of these companies, but do they actually promote the use of their inventions, do they go around and market them to firms that would actually have use for them?  To me, if they do that they seem quite valid as promoting technology and advancement.  If they don&#039;t how do they ever establish a market rate for their patents?  Simply forcing someone to pay after they&#039;re already using it, is just skewing the market, they&#039;re already invested in it and might not have gone in that direction had they been aware.

If we simply make it much easier for people to be able to review pending patents, to make comment on whether it is valid, and to browse through/review existing patents, to assure they aren&#039;t infringing, would be greatly appreciated.  Right now, to get any decent review of either you need to hire patent attorneys, and the majority of small companies and individuals don&#039;t have the budget for it.

Note: Software is already covered under copyright law, so is there really a need for additional patent protection?  You can copy someone&#039;s general plot/storyline without issue, you just can&#039;t take the specifics, that might make sense for how software IP should work as well?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel there needs to be some revision of patent law, though as a whole, it is working fairly well.  The few items I have issue with should be able to be repaired fairly easily, while still keeping the majority of the patent system as-is.</p>
<p>From my point of view, the real issue is with the lack of scrutiny many patent applications seem to go under.  This seems to be an issue almost exclusively with software and business concept patents.  I have seen numerous patents that all seem to be for effectively the same thing, or things that are no different than what already exists.  One of my real pet peeves is where a single idea gets patented multiple times simply by being moved to a different medium.  To me, that is the same idea, some of these ideas have existed for hundreds of years, yet when a new medium comes out, people are able to re-patent that idea on a new medium.  The one I recall best was a patent for something like &#8220;awarding prizes based on your performance in a game on a mobile platform.&#8221;  Now, this patent would prevent companies that existed using that business plan in other mediums, from entering that new medium.</p>
<p>You also need to admit, that a company which to most people is only there to horde patents and sue people for using their technology, while they produce nothing themselves, does just seem like a terrible thing.  That they are paying the actual inventor for these inventions, thus encouraging the creation of these inventions in the first place, gets lost.  I am unfamiliar with the function of these companies, but do they actually promote the use of their inventions, do they go around and market them to firms that would actually have use for them?  To me, if they do that they seem quite valid as promoting technology and advancement.  If they don&#8217;t how do they ever establish a market rate for their patents?  Simply forcing someone to pay after they&#8217;re already using it, is just skewing the market, they&#8217;re already invested in it and might not have gone in that direction had they been aware.</p>
<p>If we simply make it much easier for people to be able to review pending patents, to make comment on whether it is valid, and to browse through/review existing patents, to assure they aren&#8217;t infringing, would be greatly appreciated.  Right now, to get any decent review of either you need to hire patent attorneys, and the majority of small companies and individuals don&#8217;t have the budget for it.</p>
<p>Note: Software is already covered under copyright law, so is there really a need for additional patent protection?  You can copy someone&#8217;s general plot/storyline without issue, you just can&#8217;t take the specifics, that might make sense for how software IP should work as well?</p>
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		<title>By: attoman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[attoman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AH Friedman! Don&#039;t you just love it? 
He is certainly telling the publishers of this electronic rag that they have no right to a COPYRIGHT THE ONE THING THEY ALWAYS ARE CAREFUL TO PROTECT FROM THEIR NAME CALLING CRIES OF TROLLS.
As much as I like Friedman&#039;s attack on copyrights as a turn of table so that those who make their livings through writing, software and artworks are not protected from having their work stolen, in the end its just a lesson.  The point being we all inventor and writer need to have help protecting our easily stolen works or we won&#039;t provide them to society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AH Friedman! Don&#8217;t you just love it? <br />
He is certainly telling the publishers of this electronic rag that they have no right to a COPYRIGHT THE ONE THING THEY ALWAYS ARE CAREFUL TO PROTECT FROM THEIR NAME CALLING CRIES OF TROLLS.<br />
As much as I like Friedman&#8217;s attack on copyrights as a turn of table so that those who make their livings through writing, software and artworks are not protected from having their work stolen, in the end its just a lesson.  The point being we all inventor and writer need to have help protecting our easily stolen works or we won&#8217;t provide them to society.</p>
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		<title>By: Len Feldman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Len Feldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Silicon Valley was all that serious about getting rid of (or at least reforming) patents, Apple wouldn&#039;t be using them to sue Samsung, Motorola, Kodak, etc., Yahoo wouldn&#039;t be suing Facebook, and Facebook, Google, Microsoft and others wouldn&#039;t be buying up patents to either sue others or defend themselves from lawsuits. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Silicon Valley was all that serious about getting rid of (or at least reforming) patents, Apple wouldn&#8217;t be using them to sue Samsung, Motorola, Kodak, etc., Yahoo wouldn&#8217;t be suing Facebook, and Facebook, Google, Microsoft and others wouldn&#8217;t be buying up patents to either sue others or defend themselves from lawsuits. </p>
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		<title>By: facebook-547522912</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not think that one would find complete comfort in Chicago free market thought for the &quot;Trolls&quot;.  As please see the quote from Milton Friedman below.   I think there would be little disagreement that Milton is the main force behind the &quot;Chicago Movement&quot;.   So while the writer may find a law professor on the side of the Troll&#039;s, one could not expand out to what matters from Chicago, Economics.  
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&quot;The question of intellectual property rights is very complicated. Freedom of speech is the opposite of copyright, which means that you can&#039;t get copyright rights. And, intellectual property is different from physical property: in both cases, you have a monopoly but the monopoly on intellectual property is wholly different because duplicating the property comes generally at a very low or zero marginal cost. You are enforcing a monopoly pricing, as it were, that limits output to lower than the optimum social level. You cannot be in favor of infinite copyright. Essentially it&#039;s a problem of practical compromise, whether you have 17 years, 25 years, 10 years, 50 years.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think that one would find complete comfort in Chicago free market thought for the &#8220;Trolls&#8221;.  As please see the quote from Milton Friedman below.   I think there would be little disagreement that Milton is the main force behind the &#8220;Chicago Movement&#8221;.   So while the writer may find a law professor on the side of the Troll&#8217;s, one could not expand out to what matters from Chicago, Economics.  <br />
&#8212;-<br />
&#8220;The question of intellectual property rights is very complicated. Freedom of speech is the opposite of copyright, which means that you can&#8217;t get copyright rights. And, intellectual property is different from physical property: in both cases, you have a monopoly but the monopoly on intellectual property is wholly different because duplicating the property comes generally at a very low or zero marginal cost. You are enforcing a monopoly pricing, as it were, that limits output to lower than the optimum social level. You cannot be in favor of infinite copyright. Essentially it&#8217;s a problem of practical compromise, whether you have 17 years, 25 years, 10 years, 50 years.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: attoman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sarcasm is lost on &quot;dg&quot; Simone. 
It would help though if she/he/it had to make a living by inventing and obtaining defendable patents. I suspect &quot;dg&quot; would starve to death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarcasm is lost on &#8220;dg&#8221; Simone. <br />
It would help though if she/he/it had to make a living by inventing and obtaining defendable patents. I suspect &#8220;dg&#8221; would starve to death.</p>
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		<title>By: Simone H.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simone H.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@dg: Wow! So you mean if I&#039;m ahead of other (SV tech geeks) by 5 years in software - it should still not be patentable? 5 years is at least two business cycles!! In due course of time, people will come up with ideas, but it is the first one to invent who is given the rights to a patent. FYI: Alexander Graham Bell filed his telephone patents just a few hours before his competitor... but it helped him use the patents to build businesses that exist even today (Ma Bell companies to AT&amp;T). I guess the telephone would not qualify &#039;as truly raising the bar&#039; in your opinion. It would help if people like you defined what constituted &#039;truly raising the bar&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dg: Wow! So you mean if I&#8217;m ahead of other (SV tech geeks) by 5 years in software &#8211; it should still not be patentable? 5 years is at least two business cycles!! In due course of time, people will come up with ideas, but it is the first one to invent who is given the rights to a patent. FYI: Alexander Graham Bell filed his telephone patents just a few hours before his competitor&#8230; but it helped him use the patents to build businesses that exist even today (Ma Bell companies to AT&#038;T). I guess the telephone would not qualify &#8216;as truly raising the bar&#8217; in your opinion. It would help if people like you defined what constituted &#8216;truly raising the bar&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: attoman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[attoman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah yet another know-it-all who has never invented.  Well bud you might be surprised to know that large entities get presentations of new and truly novel ideas all the time and sign Non-disclosure Agreements which they then break. Lo and behold a few months or years later they magically appear with the same invention with identical parts!

The great and all seeing  &quot;dg&quot; then declares the idea not &quot;significant&quot; and all the money made by the theft of the idea is blessed by &quot;dg&quot;.  

So the movie docudrama &quot;Flash of Genius&quot; is all a lie eh &quot;dg&quot;?

It&#039;s happening again right now in many places all over the world honest inventors and usually solo inventors having their work stolen and schmucks like &quot;dg&quot; treating it as just  rather the terrible injustice it actually is.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yet another know-it-all who has never invented.  Well bud you might be surprised to know that large entities get presentations of new and truly novel ideas all the time and sign Non-disclosure Agreements which they then break. Lo and behold a few months or years later they magically appear with the same invention with identical parts!</p>
<p>The great and all seeing  &#8221;dg&#8221; then declares the idea not &#8220;significant&#8221; and all the money made by the theft of the idea is blessed by &#8220;dg&#8221;.  </p>
<p>So the movie docudrama &#8220;Flash of Genius&#8221; is all a lie eh &#8220;dg&#8221;?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s happening again right now in many places all over the world honest inventors and usually solo inventors having their work stolen and schmucks like &#8220;dg&#8221; treating it as just  rather the terrible injustice it actually is.</p>
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		<title>By: attoman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[attoman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Simone good for you!  
Silicon Valley doesn&#039;t say anything. 
Roberts speaks for Roberts not for the Bay Area or anyone in it except Roberts.

NOTICE ONE THING This discussion is copyrighted!  That&#039;s right these birds think we inventors should give our work away but pay for their weak and sloppy prose and poor journalism. Its Roberts and his ilk who should be hanging their heads in shame.

You go ahead and enforce your rights. My question to you is have you ever tried to do so? Have you ever put anyone on notice? Have you ever tried to make your inventions into a product? Just curious.Don&#039;t let the childish epithet troll make you defensive or feel bad for even one minute.  Those who cannot invent and create are forever telling us after we invent that our work is obvious but that is a very special legal term and does not mean what most people think.  Its not obvious if the implementation you created with its combination of elements had not been done before. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Simone good for you!  <br />
Silicon Valley doesn&#8217;t say anything. <br />
Roberts speaks for Roberts not for the Bay Area or anyone in it except Roberts.</p>
<p>NOTICE ONE THING This discussion is copyrighted!  That&#8217;s right these birds think we inventors should give our work away but pay for their weak and sloppy prose and poor journalism. Its Roberts and his ilk who should be hanging their heads in shame.</p>
<p>You go ahead and enforce your rights. My question to you is have you ever tried to do so? Have you ever put anyone on notice? Have you ever tried to make your inventions into a product? Just curious.Don&#8217;t let the childish epithet troll make you defensive or feel bad for even one minute.  Those who cannot invent and create are forever telling us after we invent that our work is obvious but that is a very special legal term and does not mean what most people think.  Its not obvious if the implementation you created with its combination of elements had not been done before. </p>
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