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	<title>Comments on: Google may be winning battles with publishers, but it is losing the war</title>
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		<title>By: cas127</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/01/google-may-be-winning-battles-with-publishers-but-it-is-losing-the-war/#comment-201434</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cas127]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 07:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Haven&#039;t looked into it yet but that $82 million digital &quot;innovation&quot; fund has the smell of &quot;exploding truck discount coupons&quot; to me - to wit, is the $82 mil in real, freely spendable currency or simply &quot;credits&quot; for Google advertising (whose incremental cost to Google is closer to $82 than $82 million).

I think Google may have snookered the frogs - who may have been over-eager for a purely symbolic/shambolic victory.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t looked into it yet but that $82 million digital &#8220;innovation&#8221; fund has the smell of &#8220;exploding truck discount coupons&#8221; to me &#8211; to wit, is the $82 mil in real, freely spendable currency or simply &#8220;credits&#8221; for Google advertising (whose incremental cost to Google is closer to $82 than $82 million).</p>
<p>I think Google may have snookered the frogs &#8211; who may have been over-eager for a purely symbolic/shambolic victory.</p>
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		<title>By: Afonso Duarte Pimenta</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/01/google-may-be-winning-battles-with-publishers-but-it-is-losing-the-war/#comment-201220</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Afonso Duarte Pimenta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google obviously &quot;educated&quot; you too]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google obviously &#8220;educated&#8221; you too</p>
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		<title>By: Pluralmedia</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/01/google-may-be-winning-battles-with-publishers-but-it-is-losing-the-war/#comment-201170</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pluralmedia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 00:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Bundestag serves as the lower house in Germany&#039;s legislature and is not the &quot;lower level of government&quot; as you have defined it. Despite its name, the lower house wields more power than the upper house, the Bundesrat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bundestag serves as the lower house in Germany&#8217;s legislature and is not the &#8220;lower level of government&#8221; as you have defined it. Despite its name, the lower house wields more power than the upper house, the Bundesrat.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/01/google-may-be-winning-battles-with-publishers-but-it-is-losing-the-war/#comment-201165</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 23:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, this is true that Google is giving a hard time to publisher and they are good with advertiser. They are giving nothing to publishers !
Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, this is true that Google is giving a hard time to publisher and they are good with advertiser. They are giving nothing to publishers !<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: CfC</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/01/google-may-be-winning-battles-with-publishers-but-it-is-losing-the-war/#comment-201150</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CfC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 13:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a vast difference from bring listed in search engines to being quoted in a bogus thing called Google News -  Google doesn&#039;t write a single news story. It&#039;s simply URL scraping to make Google a better stop on the internet. 

Apple at least has tried to let content makers monazite their content thru a revenue sharing plan, and a sales plan. Google does none of this. It&#039;s theft of product, plain and simple.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a vast difference from bring listed in search engines to being quoted in a bogus thing called Google News &#8211;  Google doesn&#8217;t write a single news story. It&#8217;s simply URL scraping to make Google a better stop on the internet. </p>
<p>Apple at least has tried to let content makers monazite their content thru a revenue sharing plan, and a sales plan. Google does none of this. It&#8217;s theft of product, plain and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: sanpietro</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/01/google-may-be-winning-battles-with-publishers-but-it-is-losing-the-war/#comment-201138</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sanpietro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“It doesn’t officially become legislation until it is approved by the second chamber, the Bundesrat […]”

I just wanted make a quick correction on that note: The law has NOT to be approved of the Bundesrat in order to become official – due to the quite complicated federal structures in Germany. It may, however, still be able to stop the law – but only when reaching an absolute majority in its vote against the law. In any case, the law only becomes official when having been signed by the President.

So much for the process of German legislation … ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“It doesn’t officially become legislation until it is approved by the second chamber, the Bundesrat […]”</p>
<p>I just wanted make a quick correction on that note: The law has NOT to be approved of the Bundesrat in order to become official – due to the quite complicated federal structures in Germany. It may, however, still be able to stop the law – but only when reaching an absolute majority in its vote against the law. In any case, the law only becomes official when having been signed by the President.</p>
<p>So much for the process of German legislation … ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: john-richardson</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[john-richardson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are you morons bellyaching about?  These newspapers would already be dead if not for Google.  Google news drives billions of viewers to these news sites.  

Since you all seem to be blind to the elephant in the room, let me point it out for you.  If these newspaper sites didn&#039;t want Google to list them, they can easily opt out by including the appropriate tag in their sites.  They don&#039;t even have to contact Google directly for this, it&#039;s automatic.  So, why don&#039;t they do this?  Let me ask you that again.  Why don&#039;t they do this?  Think really hard now.  It&#039;s because GOOGLE MAKES THEM MONEY BY LISTING THE SNIPPETS.  Google provides to these papers, free of charge, a money making traffic stream, and these papers are crying because they want Google to pay them for that privilege.  It&#039;s ridiculous.  If anything, they should be paying Google.

Think about it.  If you have a product to sell and you want to use Google to advertise it, you will pay Google for its ad-words service to list your advertisements within its network.  To get this advertising, you have to pay.  These newspapers are essentially getting an entire branch of the Google empire (Google News) all to themselves for free.  No advertising expenses AT ALL.  And now they want Google to PAY THEM in order to do this.  

If you can&#039;t see how backwards this whole issue is, you seriously need to learn how to think for yourself instead of letting your media &quot;educate&quot; you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you morons bellyaching about?  These newspapers would already be dead if not for Google.  Google news drives billions of viewers to these news sites.  </p>
<p>Since you all seem to be blind to the elephant in the room, let me point it out for you.  If these newspaper sites didn&#8217;t want Google to list them, they can easily opt out by including the appropriate tag in their sites.  They don&#8217;t even have to contact Google directly for this, it&#8217;s automatic.  So, why don&#8217;t they do this?  Let me ask you that again.  Why don&#8217;t they do this?  Think really hard now.  It&#8217;s because GOOGLE MAKES THEM MONEY BY LISTING THE SNIPPETS.  Google provides to these papers, free of charge, a money making traffic stream, and these papers are crying because they want Google to pay them for that privilege.  It&#8217;s ridiculous.  If anything, they should be paying Google.</p>
<p>Think about it.  If you have a product to sell and you want to use Google to advertise it, you will pay Google for its ad-words service to list your advertisements within its network.  To get this advertising, you have to pay.  These newspapers are essentially getting an entire branch of the Google empire (Google News) all to themselves for free.  No advertising expenses AT ALL.  And now they want Google to PAY THEM in order to do this.  </p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t see how backwards this whole issue is, you seriously need to learn how to think for yourself instead of letting your media &#8220;educate&#8221; you.</p>
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		<title>By: CfC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CfC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Google aggregates, that is their business model. Most of their flagship products are those aggregated for free: +You, Images, YouTube, and News. They seem to be willing to have pay models for Play (Music+Apps+Movies).

Matt, tell us why neither Google or anyone else seem to be claiming fair use of music, apps, and movies? Why do they copy Apple and pay for these items?

But, why do they not aggregate news is a store and sell news subscriptions? Apple has tried to assist in this effort with NewsStand in iOS. Others see the value in sharing the bounty... but Google hardly has it in their DNA. What is it about Google DNA that they should deem what is free and what is not? They are no longer an innocent little search engine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google aggregates, that is their business model. Most of their flagship products are those aggregated for free: +You, Images, YouTube, and News. They seem to be willing to have pay models for Play (Music+Apps+Movies).</p>
<p>Matt, tell us why neither Google or anyone else seem to be claiming fair use of music, apps, and movies? Why do they copy Apple and pay for these items?</p>
<p>But, why do they not aggregate news is a store and sell news subscriptions? Apple has tried to assist in this effort with NewsStand in iOS. Others see the value in sharing the bounty&#8230; but Google hardly has it in their DNA. What is it about Google DNA that they should deem what is free and what is not? They are no longer an innocent little search engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/03/01/google-may-be-winning-battles-with-publishers-but-it-is-losing-the-war/#comment-201071</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 20:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its only what is seen by the user is a small snippet. Google is actually analyzing the entire document]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its only what is seen by the user is a small snippet. Google is actually analyzing the entire document</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew Ingram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 20:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, but I didn&#039;t say Google cut a deal in Germany -- just that it clearly didn&#039;t win. And coming on top of the deals it did cut in Belgium and France, I think that is sending a message about Google&#039;s willingness to fight for this principle.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, but I didn&#8217;t say Google cut a deal in Germany &#8212; just that it clearly didn&#8217;t win. And coming on top of the deals it did cut in Belgium and France, I think that is sending a message about Google&#8217;s willingness to fight for this principle.</p>
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