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	<title>Comments on: Think micropayments for media can&#8217;t work? Greg Golebiewski says you are wrong</title>
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		<title>By: רון</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/05/06/think-micropayments-for-media-cant-work-greg-golebiewski-says-you-are-wrong/#comment-210457</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[רון]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[typo: &quot;Znak It’s white paper is based on&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typo: &#8220;Znak It’s white paper is based on&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew da Silva</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew da Silva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 13:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, I think micropayments are a good idea. I&#039;ve been thinking about this since the beginning of last year, at least, and my most recent thoughts on the payment model are here:

http://happyantipodean.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/google-wallet-promises-to-help-media-to.html

Lots of people said that subscriptions wouldn&#039;t work, and the numbers show that they were wrong. The websites that went to a subscription model early - and were criticised for doing it - now look like visionaries, as returns from ads have plummeted. Many people use a few websites for news - say, The New York Times and The Guardian - and so they can benefit from the fact that those companies share the same micropayment platform; other publishers can piggyback on that investment and use the same micropayment engine too. There is inherent scale in the model once you get a few big publishers on-board.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think micropayments are a good idea. I&#8217;ve been thinking about this since the beginning of last year, at least, and my most recent thoughts on the payment model are here:</p>
<p><a href="http://happyantipodean.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/google-wallet-promises-to-help-media-to.html" rel="nofollow">http://happyantipodean.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/google-wallet-promises-to-help-media-to.html</a></p>
<p>Lots of people said that subscriptions wouldn&#8217;t work, and the numbers show that they were wrong. The websites that went to a subscription model early &#8211; and were criticised for doing it &#8211; now look like visionaries, as returns from ads have plummeted. Many people use a few websites for news &#8211; say, The New York Times and The Guardian &#8211; and so they can benefit from the fact that those companies share the same micropayment platform; other publishers can piggyback on that investment and use the same micropayment engine too. There is inherent scale in the model once you get a few big publishers on-board.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin Coleman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robin Coleman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2013 19:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the idea of micropayments, or as Pieter called them above, casual payments. I also like the idea of knowing that I can&#039;t get myself into a situation where I read more than I can afford, which is why a subscription is appealing--I can budget my subscriptions without keeping tabs on myself day-to-day. 

Has anyone explored doing a micro-payment where, if you&#039;ve got an account, you&#039;ll be charged for content consumed until you reach the subscription level, after which you can keep consuming, but without additional charge? The flip side would be that on months when you don&#039;t consume much, you save a few bucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of micropayments, or as Pieter called them above, casual payments. I also like the idea of knowing that I can&#8217;t get myself into a situation where I read more than I can afford, which is why a subscription is appealing&#8211;I can budget my subscriptions without keeping tabs on myself day-to-day. </p>
<p>Has anyone explored doing a micro-payment where, if you&#8217;ve got an account, you&#8217;ll be charged for content consumed until you reach the subscription level, after which you can keep consuming, but without additional charge? The flip side would be that on months when you don&#8217;t consume much, you save a few bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mathew Ingram</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathew Ingram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 17:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks a lot for that clarification, Greg.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot for that clarification, Greg.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Golebiewski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg Golebiewski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 15:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Mathew for the write-up. 

I just wanted to comment on the results we presented a year ago in our &quot;white paper,&quot; because I receive many questions about how representative they are. 

First, the sample was not small at all: over 40,000 uniques in a month. As expected, the numbers of buyers -- 1,281 -- and paid transactions -- 3,767 -- were smaller, of course, but still statistically significant. 

Second, these numbers represent real users and real actions -- they are not opinions or declarations, which often are the case in other studies. Here, user visits a site, sees desired content, clicks on it, and -- most importantly -- completes a pay-for transaction to open/consume that content. Comparing to more traditional CTR or &quot;leads,&quot; our conversion rates are quite &quot;real&quot; and reliable. 

Finally, we do not compare our rates to the paywall conversion rates. Please note that paywall conversion is often calculated as the ratio of the total number of digital subscribers, as they accumulate over time, to the current number of uniques generated by a given site. A more appropriate measure would be to compare the number of new subscribers in each month or quarter to the number of uniques the site had when the paywall was implemented. If you do that, then the conversion rate of the NYT meter -- to use that popular example --  is not 1.5% or even 1%, as it was often said, but a fraction of one percent. More importantly, it is decreasing, not increasing; in the last quarter, the NYT reported a net gain of only about 40,000 new digital subs.   

Open, on-demand systems do not have this &quot;inherit math problem.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mathew for the write-up. </p>
<p>I just wanted to comment on the results we presented a year ago in our &#8220;white paper,&#8221; because I receive many questions about how representative they are. </p>
<p>First, the sample was not small at all: over 40,000 uniques in a month. As expected, the numbers of buyers &#8212; 1,281 &#8212; and paid transactions &#8212; 3,767 &#8212; were smaller, of course, but still statistically significant. </p>
<p>Second, these numbers represent real users and real actions &#8212; they are not opinions or declarations, which often are the case in other studies. Here, user visits a site, sees desired content, clicks on it, and &#8212; most importantly &#8212; completes a pay-for transaction to open/consume that content. Comparing to more traditional CTR or &#8220;leads,&#8221; our conversion rates are quite &#8220;real&#8221; and reliable. </p>
<p>Finally, we do not compare our rates to the paywall conversion rates. Please note that paywall conversion is often calculated as the ratio of the total number of digital subscribers, as they accumulate over time, to the current number of uniques generated by a given site. A more appropriate measure would be to compare the number of new subscribers in each month or quarter to the number of uniques the site had when the paywall was implemented. If you do that, then the conversion rate of the NYT meter &#8212; to use that popular example &#8212;  is not 1.5% or even 1%, as it was often said, but a fraction of one percent. More importantly, it is decreasing, not increasing; in the last quarter, the NYT reported a net gain of only about 40,000 new digital subs.   </p>
<p>Open, on-demand systems do not have this &#8220;inherit math problem.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Evan Schoepke</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evan Schoepke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 23:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Other companies like Flattr, Centup, and Copper.is are also doing exciting things in this space that are starting to catch hold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other companies like Flattr, Centup, and Copper.is are also doing exciting things in this space that are starting to catch hold.</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter Dubois</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pieter Dubois]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 18:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Casual payments&quot;.

Greg is right. Publishers however will only start using them kicking and screaming. Their business model is advertisement revenue fueled by subscriptions. Offline, however, they also sell per issue so why not online?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Casual payments&#8221;.</p>
<p>Greg is right. Publishers however will only start using them kicking and screaming. Their business model is advertisement revenue fueled by subscriptions. Offline, however, they also sell per issue so why not online?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McCoy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris McCoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 07:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will only exist in a consumer context i.e. Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will only exist in a consumer context i.e. Facebook, Twitter, Pinterest, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: yt75</title>
		<link>http://paidcontent.org/2013/05/06/think-micropayments-for-media-cant-work-greg-golebiewski-says-you-are-wrong/#comment-206236</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yt75]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 00:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[and he is perfectly right]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and he is perfectly right</p>
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